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Poster: L.A. Women Date: Feb 4, 2008 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

Syd Barett? they made ONE album with the guy that included songs about gnomes and scarecrows and bikes. Sure the music is unique and there a couple of nice psychadelic moments, but I hear nothing from Syd that makes him stand out as a guitar player, and for the most part the music is far from melodic and no where near as potent at what Floyd would become with Gilmour, a far better guitarist and a better voice, and with Waters as the song writer.

Had they continued on with Syd as the leader they would have disappeared in 60's obscurity, and they might have never released Animals, which blows this album out the water both musically and lyrically.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 4, 2008 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

Hey LAW--go ask Gilmour and Waters, and get back to me. Do some research.

Sorry to be harsh, but seriously.

There is simply NO PF without him. Nada, nothing. Both of those guys say THAT--not me.

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Poster: L.A. Women Date: Feb 4, 2008 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

Do some research?

I am well aware of how Waters felt about Syd, It was pretty obvious... That doesn't mean I have to agree that that album is great our that Floyd was better with Syd, because to me thats simply false. And how an album with such silly lyrics still resinates with an old man is beyond me...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 4, 2008 7:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

I actually agree with you about the lyrics, etc., BUT was really talking about influence. It was HUGE at the time. Don't underestimate how different that album sounded relative to so much of the other stuff...listen to the piano solo sounding like Dave Brubeck just to cite one strange example.

The material in the 70s, though I wholeheartedly agree was much more polished, was, at least among most of the musically inclined folks I associated with in the Bay Area, viewed with disdain, nothing new, etc., etc. It was exceedingly popular, but that almost contributed to a less than positive reception. Now, recognize that I have no musicl talent, and those I speak of were in the mainstream rock/country rock/SF sound domain, but that is why I viewed the early contributions as more influential.

To be honest, I love DSotM; haven't ever enjoyed the Animals/Wall material though--but that's very much more personal preference.

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Poster: L.A. Women Date: Feb 4, 2008 7:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

I always hated the wall, cant stand it. Animals doesn't really sound anything like the wall, I look at more as wish you were here/animals, the wall/ final cut.

Your right though you answered the question correctly, while I simply tried to debate your opinion, it was for a good cause though (mental stimulation). A win-win situation, no?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 4, 2008 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 20 most influential albums (something to take your minds off this and that ...)

Absolutely my friend, absolutely. Wish there were more clips of the early band--the few shows I have seen (liked the Syd Barret Story or whatever it was called; sad, though...) only have some snippets...

Cool to be thinking about them...will have to get ahold of Animals to check it out again after all these years. Yeah, had college roomates that played the crap out of the wall; sorta ruined it forever for me.

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